Jobs Move Overseas

Date: Feb. 11, 2004
Location: Washington, DC
Issues: Trade

JOBS MOVE OVERSEAS

Mr. HOLLINGS. Mr. President, I will address the most important subject we have confronting us in this country. It is brought about by a headline yesterday in the Los Angeles Times, "Bush Supports Shift of Jobs Overseas." I know the distinguished Presiding Officer, as well as this particular Senator, was shocked to see that. But it is the truth. It is unfortunate because of the policy of this particular body, the Senate, we are as guilty as the President of the United States.

I hear my colleagues weeping and wailing, how could he say such a thing? Heavens above, how could you pass fast track? It's just shipping jobs overseas faster. There's all this free trade, free trade whining; all of this level the playing field, level the playing field but we're shipping jobs overseas.

What really happens is the distinguished President-I don't know what his situation is with respect to being AWOL in the National Guard, but I make a categorical statement-and many others are AWOL from the trade war. Now let's talk about the Afghanistan war, the Iraq war, the terrorism war, but more than anything else, a trade war.

Senator, let me tell you how to start one. It was in the earliest States, the colonies that are great forefathers started. That is the greatest generation. We sit around here, a few of us, veterans from World War II being called the greatest generation. But the real heroes are not here. The real greatest generation was Madison and Jefferson and Washington and Hamilton and Adams. That was the real great generation of our time.

The colonies had just won their freedom when the mother country corresponded back and proposed exactly what we hear today, economists running around all over the land yelling "comparative advantage." Today, we read in the Los Angeles Times article about the comparative advantage. But the doctrine started with David Ricardo, when the British suggested what to do is trade back to the mother country what you produce best-your comparative advantage-and they will trade back with you what they produce best. Free trade, free trade, free trade.

Alexander Hamilton wrote a little booklet, "Report On Manufacturers." I say to the Senator, there is one copy in the Library of Congress. I have been allowed to make a copy of it, but that is the only original copy I know of. But, in any event, rather than wasting the time of putting it in the RECORD here, in a line, Hamilton told the British: Bug off. We are not going to remain your colonies, shipping to you the rice, the cotton, the indigo, the timber, the iron ore, and the natural produce of the land, and continue to import the manufacturing.

There was a law before we won our freedom that you could not erect a manufacturing plant in the Colonies. It was against the law to produce. Oh, yes.

So how do you start a trade war? On July 4, 1789, the second measure that passed the Congress in its history-the first was the Seal of the United States-but the second, on July 4, 1789, was a tariff bill. It was protectionism. It was a 50-percent tariff on over 60 articles. That is how we started to build up our economic strength.

Our economic strength, I say to the Senator, is the vital leg in the three-legged stool of a nation's security. You have the one leg of a nation's values. That was unquestioned until we started preemptive wars. But we are known the world around-they do not hate us. They do not like this policy, but they do not hate Americans. I have traveled the world for the last 37 years, and I can tell you they love America. They revere our stand for individual freedom, democracy, and human rights.

We have sacrificed the world around; and we still are. We have, counting in Afghanistan and Iraq and Kuwait, 14 peacekeeping forces around the world right now. So we have sacrificed.

But there is no sacrifice for this war in Iraq back home, and there is no sacrifice in this Congress. We need a tax cut so we can get reelected. So we tell the poor fellow in downtown Baghdad: We hope you don't get killed. And we really hope you don't get killed because we want you to hurry back so we can give you the bill.

But, in any event, the second leg is the military, unquestioned as the world's superpower. We have the fine soldiers we have deployed in both Afghanistan and Iraq and elsewhere in those peacekeeping outfits. More particularly, the economic leg, that third leg is what has been fractured.

Now how did we build it up? How do you build an economy? Every country in the world is engaged in this trade war. You have to compete. You have to protect your economic interests.

After the forefathers came Abraham Lincoln, the father of the Republican Party. When they came to President Lincoln and said: We are going to build the transcontinental railroad, and we are going to get steel, he said: We are not going to get the steel from Britain. We are going to build our own steel mills. When they were completed, they not only had a transcontinental railroad but a steel capacity under Abraham Lincoln.

In the darkest days of the Depression, Franklin Delano Roosevelt protected America's agriculture. It is still the envy the world around. But we put in import quotas, subsidies for agriculture, and they should be protected unless we want to lose that. They jump all over poor Trade Representative Zoellick. He finally got a free trade agreement with Australia. There were exemptions-dairy exemptions, farm exemptions. You get what you can. We don't have just one agreement and that is the end of the world. If you cannot get an agreement with Australia, our best ally-and their standard of living, they have labor rights, environmental rights galore in Australia-if we cannot get a free trade agreement with that group, we are not going to get a free trade agreement with anybody. So we got it. I would support that because we have the same standard of living.

Not only President Roosevelt, but Dwight David Eisenhower was a protectionist. He put on oil import quotas-back in the mid-1950s.

And John Fitzgerald Kennedy-he had import quotas on textiles. He had a seven-point program to protect textiles. I helped write it. I can see me down in the press room now with Pierre Salinger and Andy Hatcher, the assistant in the press room in the White House. I will give you an original copy of the seven-point program. But we saved, with the multifiber arrangement, textile production in America until we started giving it away willy-nilly in yarn. We gave away $2 billion to Turkey in Desert Storm. We gave away $1 billion here and $1 billion there. They continue with the African, the Caribbean agreements, and everywhere else.

President Reagan came down to South Carolina, and he committed to protect textiles. We passed the textile bill through the House and the Senate just to enforce the multifiber agreement. He vetoed it. We passed it under "Papa" Bush through the
House and the Senate just to enforce the multifiber agreement, and "Papa" Bush, who had committed to textiles, vetoed it.

They keep coming in to Greenville, SC, promising, promising anything during an election. I have to come up here to Washington and watch them go back on their promises. So don't give me any of this stuff about protectionism.

Let me tell you, fair and square, we are in a trade war. That is how you build up your economic strength. Before you open your front door, I say to the Senator from Vermont, for "Jeffords Manufacturing," you will need to pay minimum wage, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid. You will need to have clean air, clean water, plant closing notice, parental leave, safe working place, safe machinery-I can keep going down the list.

So what happens? You can go to China and open a plant for 58 cents an hour-and none of that, none of that. Still, let's talk "cents." If your competition goes, you have to go. If you continue to work your own people, you go bankrupt. So, you see, they have given dignity to this dilemma with this headline: Supports the Jobs Overseas. We in the Congress are responsible for setting the trade policy. We are the guilty parties around here. We have to change the culture and say: Don't worry about this free trade and that you might start a trade war. We are in the war.

We started unilaterally disarming for a wonderful purpose after World War II. Let me tell you where we were before World War II. This is the most interesting thing because this is not a politician speaking. This is none other than the famous author Edmund Morris in "Theodore Rex." I will just read you a few short paragraphs about where we were at the turn of the century. I am quoting from "Theodore Rex":

The first year of the new century found her worth twenty-five billion more than her nearest rival, Great Britain, with a gross national product more than twice that of Germany and Russia. The United States was already so rich in goods and services that she was more self-sustaining than any industrial power in history.

Indeed, it could only consume a fraction of what it produced. The rest went overseas at prices other exporters found hard to match. As Andrew Carnegie said, "the nation that makes the cheapest steel has other nations at its feet." More than half of the world's cotton, corn, copper, and oil flowed from the American cornucopia, and at least one third of all steel, iron, silver and gold.

Even if the United States were not so blessed with raw materials, the excellence of her manufactured products guaranteed her dominance of the world markets. Current advertisements in the British magazines gave the impression that the typical Englishman woke to the ring of an Ingersoll alarm, shaved with a Gillette razor, combed his hair with Vaseline tonic, buttoned his Arrow shirt, hurried downstairs for Quaker Oats, California figs, Maxwell House coffee, commuted in a Westinghouse tram (body by Fisher) rose to his office in an Otis elevator and worked all day with his Waterman pen under the efficient glare of Edison lightbulbs. "It only remains," one Fleet Street wag suggested, "for [us] to take American coal to Newcastle." Behind the joke lay real concerns. The United States was already supplying beer to Germany, pottery to Bohemia, and oranges to Valencia.

Now we import all of it. And why? Because at the end of World War II, in order to prosper, we had to spread prosperity, the Marshall plan. We sent over not just the money of the Marshall billions, we sent over the expertise, the equipment. And it worked. We industrialized Europe and the Pacific rim and capitalism has defeated communism. So it worked. But in that 50-year period, we more or less unilaterally disarmed.

I can remember back as a young Governor in 1960, I testified before the old international tariff commission, and Tom Dewey was the lawyer for the Japanese. He was chasing me around, and I was attesting to the fact that if this continued, with imports of textiles, 10 percent of the American consumption in textiles would be represented in imports. Over two-thirds of the clothing I am looking at now is imported, not 10 percent. Over 86 percent of the shoes are imported. And so it goes with automobiles and steel and hand tools and everything else.

I have been watching Lou Dobbs. He has had a series on how the world is sending us their architects; then they are sending over medical personnel, and doctors in America are sending mammograms to be read in India. And then I find out that my utility in South Carolina-SCANA-was administering my light bills in downtown Bangalore, India, and my Food Stamp Program at the State capital in my home State had moved to India. I said: Heavens above.

The other night I turned on the series, and now we are moving our law work to lawyers abroad. Instead of hiring paralegals for $75,000 to $80,000 a year in New York to do the background work on a brief or an appeal-they are moving the work to lawyers overseas. They are going to move everything overseas except politicians. We are already too cheap, I can tell you that. They will be importing everything except us politicians. And we keep sitting around whining and beating the desks and showing charts how we are leveling the playing field.

How do you think you level the playing field? You raise a barrier against a barrier and then remove them both. This proposition of the Golden Rule doesn't work in business, I can tell you that.

Mr. REID. Will the Senator yield for a question?

Mr. HOLLINGS. Yes, sir.

Mr. REID. I would like the Senator to comment on the Los Angeles Times headline: "Bush Supports Shift to Jobs Overseas."

Mr. HOLLINGS. Show that to the viewing public, please. That is the theme here.

Mr. REID. You are aware, of course-that is why you are here-of "the loss of work to other countries, while painful in the short term, will enrich the economy, his report to Congress says." This is the man who succeeded Lawrence Lindsey, who had such a great career in the Federal Government. You are familiar with Lawrence Lindsey, are you not?

Mr. HOLLINGS. I surely am.

Mr. REID. This is his successor. I think he will maybe fit in the same shoes as Lawrence Lindsey did. So the Senator
doesn't think this is such a good philosophy, that we are shipping all the jobs overseas?

Mr. HOLLINGS. I tell you, it has been ship, ship, ship. And who is financing this extravagance we have going? Let me bring you up to date. In 2003, as of the end of November, the Chinese had borrowed, in the People's Republic $143.8 billion and at Hong Kong $55.5 billion. So they have financed your and my extravagance to the tune of $199.7 billion-they are financing our debt.

Treasury Secretary John Snow goes to China and he says: How about floating your yen here so we can do away with that advantage you have? And the fellows in Beijing say: Bug off, boy. Go on back home. We might start selling your bonds rather than buying them, if you don't think that will wreck your economy and get the Democrats elected in November. That is what they told Snow. And Snow put his tail between his legs and came home. This is what controls the trade policy. We don't control it because we abdicate. Just like President Bush is AWOL in the trade war, we have been AWOL in the trade war-we have, this Congress.

Article I, section 8, of the Constitution reads that the Congress of the United States shall regulate foreign commerce. What do we do? We bug out. We want the money from the big guys and the rich guys and the multinationals, so we bug out and say, oh, no, you take it, Mr. President, we will give you fast track so we cannot even amend trade agreements and you have the responsibility. With that responsibility, he goes AWOL. Here is the headline. And we are AWOL.

You have the candidates running all over the land weeping and wailing about jobs. Let me tell you one thing, Mr. President. If you are going to try to rebuild an economy, you have to do one thing. I am going to give you our jobs omnibus bill and we will draw it up and I will get the distinguished Senator from Vermont to look at it and see what he thinks of it.

No. 1, what we have to do is immediately quit financing the move of jobs overseas. I will never forget, I called Walter Allen Drissi. In Lexington, SC, I helped him with the water and sewer lines. He went out and got himself organized and started a high-tech company, Avenax. He got involved with Bill Gates and MCI. So 4 or 5 years ago, when his stock was up, I called Walter out in California and I said: Now, when you expand, I want a plant somewhere in South Carolina. We were good to you and you still have a home in Columbia.

He said: I will keep my home. I love South Carolina, but I don't make anything in this country. He said: I got my research and sales out here. He said: I go right to China for my product. I get a year-to-year contract. I don't have to build a plant. They have the plant and the workforce. I got a quality man and I am sitting here with the Internet. I watch it every day. My good and trusted man watches the quality. I make two or three visits a year. At the end of the year, I have made a wonderful profit. If I haven't, I haven't lost anything really because I don't have to renew the contract. If I have done better than expected, I get another contract. It is a sweetheart deal.

That is what is going on with American business. Do you know who the enemy within is? The enemy within is our best
organizations-the Business Roundtable, the Conference Board, the National Association of Manufacturers, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, National Federation of Independent Business. They are running all over the floor saying: free trade, free trade, free trade. Are you for free trade? And we jump like monkeys and say, yes, I am for free trade, but I want to level the playing field. This is nauseating. I have been watching this for years.

Even the newspapers are against it. They make a majority of their profits on retail advertising, and the retailers buy all their products overseas.

I used to sit right where the Senator is standing, talking about how retailers have 100,000 articles at Christmastime, and when they run out of supplies and need another 10,000 dozen quick they would get it from New Jersey. But now they make a way greater profit on the imported article than on the New Jersey production. So the retailers make all their profits on the imported articles, and they advertise and they call up and they give the already canned editorials to the newspapers, so all the newspapers are hollering free trade, free trade, saying it creates jobs. It loses jobs.

I have lost 58,000 jobs since President Bush has taken office. Come on. My State is in trouble. That is why all the candidates were running around there making promises. They started a movement. But they have to understand that we have to change the culture.

How do you change the culture? You change the culture by, No. 1, quit financing them, and letting them keep the profits they make overseas. They don't have to pay income tax. That has to stop. We have a bill in that takes those benefits from overseas production and gives it to the particular domestic manufacturer that continues to work his own people.

No. 2, we have to start enforcing our laws. I have worked with the private community over the years in customs law and enforcement of trade laws, and it has been left to the manufacturer and the private entity to enforce it.

I will never forget the final climax of this so-called enforcement in customs laws occurred back when President Reagan was President. If you had a problem, you had to go first before the International Trade Administration, prove a dumping violation, come before the International Trade Commission and prove an injury, and then go to the U.S. Supreme Court and prove the legality; and then you have one final step, where the President of the United States, on national security provisions, can vitiate the whole thing.

In the Zenith case, they won it all. They won before the Trade Administration and the International Trade Commission. They won before the Supreme Court. Then the Cabinet was gathered around the table and they agreed unanimously to enforce the finding. In walked President Reagan and he said: I have talked to Prime Minister of Japan and we are going to have to reverse that. That was the end of it-three years, millions of dollars, all kinds of motions and pleadings and everything else, and it didn't get anywhere.

So the real trial bar in trade cases has just about disappeared because it is not worth the billable hours to go through the exercise. We need an Assistant Attorney General on textile laws. We have an Assistant Attorney General on antitrust. We need an Assistant Attorney General on trade laws and on dumping.

We ought to start enforcing our dumping or selling lost leaders below cost. That is against the law in the domestic economy and the capitalistic society that we have, to have lost leaders and sell below cost. That is exactly what they are doing.

That Lexus that costs $32,000 in America sells for $42,000 in Tokyo on the main street there. They have been selling below cost here, financing with the banking system to get market share. They don't care about profits. Market share is the competition.

They say it is not WTO compatible. Well, if it is not World Trade Organization compatible, we have to change that or get out of the World Trade Organization. After getting that, in addition to enforcing our laws, we have to make sure we have the customs agents.

I got an office in the Customs house in Charleston, SC. I used to go to them on textiles and they said: Senator, wait a minute, we are shorthanded. Do you want me to enforce drugs or textiles?

I said: No, no, let's be sure we get the drugs.

Now I go to them and they say: Wait a minute. Do you want me to enforce homeland security, or drugs, or textiles?

I say homeland security and drugs, forget about the textiles.

The Treasury Department and Customs testified that they got 5 billion in trans ship ments-illegal trans ship ments of textiles into this country. We could save thousands of jobs if we could just get that law enforced.

We need specifically to fully fund the Manufacturing Extension Partnership and the Advanced Technology Program. We need a list of the critical materials in the Defense Department that are necessary to our national security. We must make sure we aren't running a deficit in the balance of those critical materials.

Do you know why we waited that long to go into Desert Storm? We couldn't get the flat panel displays for the lookdown, see-down, before we could go in and decimate Saddam. Now, for much of that defense materiel we have to depend on allies whom this administration has made generally unfriendly.

Come on, in this terror war, might doesn't make right; right makes might in the war on terror. Don't worry about a big old defense budget. Get me a big old State Department budget. Let's start making friends. We can't do this by ourselves. We are whistling "Dixie" running around with an atom bomb and a bunch of GIs killing.

The question is: Was it really worth the invasion of Iraq to get rid of Saddam with 530-some American dead, over 3,000 injured, $160 billion in costs, and creating more terrorism rather than less terrorism? We actually, this minute, have more terrorism rather than less terrorism. We hope-and we want to support our effort in Iraq to bring it to as quick a conclusion as possible-we hope we have democracy, but right now, if you had to call the hand, it would be a loser because we were misled into this war.

Saddam Hussein didn't have any weapons of mass destruction, but when the President-and I want to explain that vote-when the President on October 7, 2002, said there is clear evidence of peril-those are his words, "clear evidence of peril"-we cannot wait until the smoking gun is a mushroom cloud.

Mr. INHOFE. Will the Senator yield?

Mr. HOLLINGS. Wait a minute. That was on October 7. On October 11, we voted. Once the Commander in Chief says there is clear evidence of peril, and 4 days later we have a vote, anybody reasonably sane and prudent would vote to support his Commander in Chief. We thought there was clear evidence of peril. There was not clear evidence of peril.

I will be delighted to yield.

Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, is the Senator aware that 13 months ago they found 11 chemical rockets with warheads that would hold 140 liters of any kind of chemical? They found with that VX gas enough to load these 11 rockets. Subsequent to that they found 36 more. That is 47. Each rocket, with 140 liters of VX gas, can kill a million people; is the Senator aware of that? Would the Senator call that a weapon of mass destruction?

Mr. HOLLINGS. We ought to make my colleague, Senator Inhofe, the inspector rather than David Kay, who didn't find any of what the Senator was listing. In other words, I don't think there is any more argument. There might have been a little bit here, a little bit there, but there was no imminent threat. There was no clear evidence of peril. You can find stuff that could have killed anybody. We could all get the chicken flu, but we are not trying to eliminate the State of Delaware because they have a little chicken flu there. Come on.

Mr. INHOFE. Will the Senator yield further?

Mr. HOLLINGS. Yes.

Mr. INHOFE. If they found 47 chemical rockets, rockets that would hold 140 liters of chemicals, why would they have them if they didn't intend on using them against somebody? Would you inform the Senator?

Mr. HOLLINGS. Why didn't they use them? Excuse me, why didn't they use it? You found them, why didn't they use them? Why didn't you call Saddam and say use them?

Mr. INHOFE. Why did they have them if they weren't wanting to use them at some point?

Mr. HOLLINGS. What is the excuse? You should have called him, you found them, and Saddam didn't use them. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. You are running around on the floor of the Senate finding all kinds of things, but we had inspectors upon inspectors, and they have pretty well proved there was no clear evidence of peril.

Mr. JEFFORDS. Will the Senator yield for a question?

Mr. HOLLINGS. Yes.

Mr. JEFFORDS. I commend the Senator for his accurate statement relative to the purported threats. There was no way to deliver. I think 900 miles was the furthest rockets could carry, and there was no threat really ever given anyway. I want to clear that up from my perspective.

I thank the Senator from South Carolina more so for the wonderful economic history of this Nation he has given us and how we came to the incredibly strong positions we were in but now find ourselves dissipating all those great triumphs we had in the past and watching them all march overseas.

I think what Senator Hollings has given us today ought to be put in marble so everybody can read and better understand the situation of this Nation at this time. I thank him for that wonderful contribution to our history.

Mr. HOLLINGS. The Senator from Vermont has been overgenerous to me, but I think what we both agree we are at fault as much as the President in shipping jobs overseas. We are the ones under the Constitution, article I, section 8, the Congress, not the President, not the Supreme Court, the Congress shall regulate foreign commerce, but we have abdicated our responsibility, and we have gladly done so. Why? Because the Conference Board and the Business Roundtable and the United States Chamber of Commerce gives us money, and we need the money to run. So we take the money and run and avoid our responsibilities.

We have to change the whole culture. We are into a dynamic trade war. We had a plus balance 10 years ago with Europe. We have a negative balance now. NAFTA hasn't worked. We had a $5 billion-plus balance before NAFTA. Now it is a negative $15 billion balance, and the average Mexican worker is not making less. What we really need is a Marshall Plan for our neighbor, the country of Mexico. That is what we ought to have rather than going back and forth.

We had last year a $500 billion trade deficit, and about $500 billion in a budget deficit. So we have infused-infused-$1 trillion in the last year into the economy, and we created no jobs. That should worry everybody in the Congress. And what the President proposed for next year's budget is not a $521 billion deficit. Look on page 392, and you will find it's a $726 billion budget deficit that he proposes, and he doesn't include anything for Afghanistan and Iraq and the cost of the alternative minimum tax, which is another $200 billion.

We are in real trouble. We have to sit down in a bipartisan way and quit running around with the signs saying the President is AWOL, because the Congress is AWOL. That is my beef. I fought these trade bills. I couldn't get anybody's attention, but now we have their attention. Baloney with that Business Roundtable, and profits, and downsizing and moving overseas. Let's make it profitable for manufacturers to do business in the United States. That is common sense. I say to the Senator from Vermont, doesn't he want to do that? I am sure he does. I thank the distinguished Senator for his kind attention. These are the most important issues we have ever had. There isn't any question about that.

The January 27th New York Times reports that at a business meeting in Davos, Zhu Min, an economic adviser to the President of China, was met with silence when he asked Americans how their country planned to finance its economy with both blue collar manufacturing and white collar service jobs going elsewhere.

The world has changed. Come on, wake up and start working out a good jobs policy in this Congress and quit blaming each other. There is plenty of blame to go around for all of us. But when it gets so bad that the economic adviser to the President of China, is asking how you pay your bill with all of these jobs going over here, and the economic adviser to the President of the United States says, "Right on, we need more of them overseas, it is good for the country," we are in real trouble.

I thank the distinguished Senator.

I yield the floor.

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